there were so many people on the street, that it got lost, it got lost makes it ways to the city hall. where they were going to give his first peach. people have been waiting so long to hear one word out of this man's mouth, and he got it on on the balcony, of city hall, and gave this rambling speech, most of which was ground out by the din on the street. i think we forget all this many years on. >> you want to interview him a couple of times. over time, did he understand the impact that he had had did he understand what his legacy would be? i think as we just heard, it was his trip to new york, which i was also lucky enough to cover, ealey made him understand. i think in those first few weeks out of jail, and seeing all these people line-up to say hello to them, they were tribal leaders, that took days to get there, with little pieces of paper with different disputes that they wanted him to resolve. i think it took him a while to realize that he had this huge reach which of course, he didn't know for much of the time that he was in jail. >> on this end, in the safe the immaterial pac